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Vince Fakhoury Horn's avatar

I met Jeffrey Martin in 2011, when I was a subject in his research. While I wouldn't go so far as to say he was promoting depersonalization–a lot of awakening is about healthy depersonalization with the ego narrative–it was pretty obvious to me and several of my colleagues that he had sociopathic tendencies. Yes, sociopaths are real, and yes, there are a lot of them in the spiritual marketplace. The good news is that about 10 years ago I began to actively warn people against working with him, and several heeded my advice. Some didn't, but came to realize the truth about Jeffrey later, and admitted as much. Once it becomes apparent that someone has strongly sociopathic tendencies, it is completely appropriate to warn people–either privately and/or publicly–about associating with them.

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I appreciate that there is so much interest in clearing the air and exposing these people who are abusing their power as spiritual teachers or gurus. It seems pretty clear that some of these teachers have not done their own shadow work or inner work, instead enjoying the power influence that seemed to have over their followers.

But I would like to say that I took Jeffery Martin's 45 day course in 2023 and my experience of the course was truly fantastic. I didn't much care for his demeanor but it did not affect how the course worked for me. I think you are a bit misleading in saying that he is encouraging depersonalization. He gathered the best practices from many traditions and presented them in the course. In the non-duality world, losing the sense of I is a goal, I don't believe you can make such a negative claim about encouraging dissociation and depersonalization without getting more clear about what is actually happening.

I personally feel my life is changed for the better form this course. It is disappointing that his interactions with Epstein have tainted this course as I found it to be amazing and also know many people who have benefited greatly from taking his Finder's course.

I don't anything about his personal life, but none of it has affected how this course has helped me to be so much more free from suffering.

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